Re: Draft 2012

[Bradley]

U pravu si, u napadu bi bili ograniceni, kao sto su i sad, ali kada bi Charlotte doveo jednog dobrog igraca recimo na poziciji krila, bio bi to dobar tim..Mnogo bolji nego sada, sigurno..
Ipak je Jordan gazda, ne sumnjam u njega i njegove odluke ni malo

[Jumpman]

dzordan je najveci fejler kao gazda brate

[Knofler]

Nije doveo igraca da valja od kad je vlasnik pa ni kao direktor ili GM (sta je vec bio).A otisli su Okafor,J-Rich,
Wallace,Jackson.

[wall#2]

Znaci onaj klub koji zavrsi zadnji on bira prvi na draftu,pitam zato sto nisam bas prije prati draft

[Knofler]

Ne bira najgori prvi na draftu vec ima najvise kuglica u sesiru i samim tim najvise sansi da dobije pravo da izabere top pika.Cikago je 2008. imao samo teoretske sanse pa je na lutriji dobio 1. pik (D. Rose)

[Mr. Striko]

To je extra fora

[dr Hofmann]

Sullinger i SF Tesko,jako tesko.On je mozda i kosarkaski najskolovaniji igrac koji ce izaci sa ovog drafta.Cale mu je trener i mnogo je radjeno sa njim,rijetko se vidjaju neke nerezonske i glupave odluke.Svi segmenti(napadacki) igre su na mjestu,ali odbrana je poprilican problem.Nema defanzivne instinkte,i jako cesto ispada.Na tome ce mnogo morati da poradi.Citao sam nesto na ESPN i mnogi skauti kazu da ima mozda i najveci potencijal,ali da je pitanje kako ce proci njegova fizicka transformacija kad bude dosao u NBA.Uglavnom,kazu da ce to u mnogome odrediti tok njegove karijere.

[LeonDeb]

Neki kazu za barnesa da je precijenjen,ja se nebi slozio,da je dobio puni palicu da vodi unc,puno vise bi on i pokazao,njega malo unistava taj sut s poludistance al uzasno je pozrtvovan i strasno dobro zna tempirat skokove i suteve,ima odlican izbor suteva i moze zabit kada god hoce,najjace oruzje mu je ulazak pod kos,ima kretnje koje izlude svakog igraca pa i najbolje defenzivca...obrana mu nije strana,williams ga je naucio igrat obranu...jos puno treba radit al ne mogu ne reci da covjek ima najveci talenat i potencijal od svih igraca ukoliko bude otisoa na draft,toliko se jos moze unaprijedit kao igrac,smao treba zavrsit u pravom klubu i ne glumit zvijezdicu neku,tako je sa svim igracima...eto ovo je samo moje misljenje o barnesu,previse puta sam ga gledao,nekad je i razocarao al kad je uhavtio pravi ritam nitko ga nije mogao zaustavit...osjecam da bi mogao imat veliki kraj sezone..bas kao i prosle sezone

[dr Hofmann]

Tu je jako jedna bitna stvar koju si spomenuo.Klub koji ga draftuje.

[Mrakar]

To je bitno za svakog igraca. Za te igrace od kojih se ocekuje puno, dosta je bolje da ih draftuju slabije ekipe u kojima odmah mogu doci do izrazaja(naravno bilo je i izuzetaka ali...)

[LeonDeb]

Slabije ali barem bolje organiziranije,meni se cini da ce se kemba pogubit tamo u bobcatsima...

[Mrakar]

Njega jebe sto je najbolji igrac te ekipe PG a njih dvojica ne mogu zajedno igrati i onda je pod pritiskom cim dobije malo minuta a ocligledno je da su analiticari bili u pravu kada su rekli da ce ga visina zezati u NBA-u jer je on vise strijelac nego playmaker

[LeonDeb]

A nego sta...ima dosta solidan pregled al je teski skorer,to je i dokazao na uconnu,jebe njega i to,al ta uprava je toliko ocajna i uz silasa koji je sigurno veliki poticatelj mladih igraca,kako je samo biyomba pripremio,dao mu da se okrsi s mozda najboljim centrom lige howardom(meni je osobno bynum) i odlicno je odigrao i dobio samopouzdanja i jos je sam izjavljivao da mu je silas najbolji trener kojeg je imao..eto to jebe njih sve...neki se prilagode,neki zabunare,ovaj je poceo bunarit i to jako jako...steta steta

[Lawson]

Imam jedno pitanje,kolike su sanse da denver dobije top 10 pick ako ne udjemo u PO??

[Mrakar]

evo mozes sve procitati ovde:
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1. 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the #1 pick
2. 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
4. 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
5. 88 combinations, 8.8% chance
6. 63 combinations, 6.3% chance
7. 43 combinations, 4.3% chance
8. 28 combinations, 2.8% chance
9. 17 combinations, 1.7% chance
10. 11 combinations, 1.1% chance
11. 8 combinations, 0.8% chance
12. 7 combinations, 0.7% chance
13. 6 combinations, 0.6% chance
14. 5 combinations, 0.5% chance

znaci ako budu najbolji od ovih sto ne udju samo 0,5 % sanse
Ali chicago je dobio Rosea sa 0,7 tako da...

[Knofler]

I ja mislim da nece biti pretjerano jak draft,2-3 igraca imaju potencijala ali to nije dovoljno.Iluzorno je traziti novog Karmela,Vejda,Ronda,Evansa da ne pominjem Kobija i MJ

[Lawson]

a od ovih ekipa sto udju u po,gleda se skor samo?
znaci 15i pick 8oj s istoka a 16i 8oj sa zapada?(posto ne vjerujem da ce neka sa istoka 8a imati bolji skor od ovih sa zapada...)

[dr Hofmann]

Ove godine cemo 99% prvi put u istoriji imati #1 i #2 pick sa istog univerziteta.Anthony Davis i Kidd-Gilchrist ce zapoceti novo poglavlje.MKG mi je omiljeni igrac koji izlazi sa ovog drafta,ali momak ce imat pakleno tezak put jer ako ga izaberu Wizardsi,onda ce tranzicija biti zajebana sa svim onim kretenima u timu.Kad bi samo mogao da sklizne do Kingsa,ali kurac.Most likely destinacije su NOH i pomenuti Washington.Ne zna se sta je gore od gorega.

[-the lood-]

Mislim da su Wizardsi u svakom slučaju gora opcija inače, zanimljivo to za 1. i 2. pik

[nellepb]

Sad Portland ima 3 :)zbog Netsa

[Sky]

Portlandu će vjerojatno najbolje biti ako izaberu Drummonda. Aldridge i Drummond centarska linija.
inače, da Warriorsi nekako uspiju dobiti taj 7. pick, stvarno ne znam koga bi mogli birati, petorka za sljedeću sezonu je sigurna, Curry-Thompson-Wright-Lee-Bogut. možda Bradley Beal, ali ne znam hoće li biti izabran prije toga, a postoji realna šansa.

[dr Hofmann]

Warriorsi nemaju pik prve runde ove godine,Utah ga je dobila.Sto se tice,Drummonda vjerovatno ostaje na collegeu.

[Sky]

pick je zaštićen do 7. mjesta, a oni su trenutno 9. možda i uspiju nekako osvojiti natrag taj pick.

[Lawson]

Warriors receive the Spurs 2012 (protected) first-round pick. (taking Richard Jefferson's contract) () a ovo?

[Lawson]

2012 Outstanding Trades

[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Bulls receive the Bobcats' 2012 first-round pick (top 14 protected in 2012, top 12 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 8 protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016) (Tyrus Thomas trade 02-18-10)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Cavs have the option to swap 2012 first-round picks with the Heat (LeBron James trade 07-09-10)
	Cavs receive the Kings 2012 first-round pick lottery protected in the 2012 Draft, top 13 protected in 2013, top 12 in 2014, top 10 protected in 2015 and 2016, otherwise a 2nd round pick in 2017 ()
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Cavs receive the Lakers 2012 first-round pick lottery protected in the 2012 Draft. (Ramon Sessions trade) ()
	Warriors receive the Spurs 2012 (protected) first-round pick. (taking Richard Jefferson's contract) ()
	Celtics receive the Clippers' 2012 first-round pick, via Thunder (Eric Bledsoe trade) (top 10 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015, unprotected in 2016. In 2012, the Celtics would receive the lesser of the Clippers first-round pick or the T'Wolves' first-round pick (Marko Jaric trade)) (Jeff Green trade 02-24-11)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Rockets receive the Mavericks' 2012 first-round pick. (top 20 protected until 2017). via Lakers (Odom) (Jordan Hill trade) (Lamar Odom trade 11-12-2011)
	Rockets receive the Knicks' 2012 first-round pick (top 5 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015, if not conveyed by 2015 then the Rockets will receive the Knicks 2015 and 2016 second-round picks) (Tracy McGrady trade 02-18-10)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	T'Wolves receive the Utah's 2012 first-round pick (lotto protected in 2012 and top 12 protected in 2013, and Minn has option to swap picks in 2014 if Utah pick is 10 or lower. Otherwise Minn receives 2nd rounder.) (Darius Songalia trade 09-09-09)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Nets receive the Rockets' 2012 first-round pick (top 14 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016, or 2017 2nd round pick) (Terrence Williams trade 12-15-10)
	Hornets receive the Timberwolves 2012 first-round pick. (unprotected). via Clippers. (Paul trade) (Chris Paul trade 12-14-2011)
	Blazers receive 2012 first-round pick (top 3 protected) from New Jersey. (Gerald Wallace trade) ()
	Jazz receive the Warriors' 2012 first-round pick, via Nets (Marcus Williams trade) (top 7 protected in 2012 and 2013, top 6 protected in 2014. If not received by 2014, Jazz will instead receive Warriors' 2014 and 2016 second round picks) (Deron Williams trade 02-24-11)

2012 Second Round

[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Hawks receive the Suns' 2012 second-round pick ()
	Cavs receive the Hornets' 2012 second-round pick, via Heat (Marcus Thornton trade) (LeBron James trade 07-09-10)
	Mavs receive the T'Wolves' 2012 second-round pick (top 55 protected) (Nathan Jawai trade 10-20-09)
	Mavs receive the Lakers 2012 second-round pick. (unprotected). (Lamar Odom trade 11-12-2011)
	Nuggets receive the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, via Knicks (David Lee trade 07-09-10) (Carmelo Anthony trade 02-22-11)
	Pistons receive the Rockets' 2012 second-round pick (top 40 protected in 2012, top 35 protected in 2013 and 2014, unprotected in 2015) (Chase Budinger trade 06-25-09)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Warriors receive the Nets' 2012 second-round pick (Troy Murphy trade 02-23-11)
	Rockets receive the Timberwolves' 2012 second-round pick (from 31-55 or extinguished) (Draft Day trade 06-23-11)
	Lakers receive the Bulls' 2012 second-round pick, via Bucks (John Salmons trade), via Nets (Chris Douglas-Roberts trade) or Lakers can decide to receive cash instead of the second-round pick (Sasha Vujacic trade 12-15-10)
[Only admins are allowed to see this image]	Heat receive the Grizzlies' 2012 second-round pick (top 55 protected) (Shaun Livingston trade 01-07-09)
	T'Wolves receive the Thunder' 2012 second-round pick (Lazar Hayward trade 12-13-11)
	Nets receive the Heat's 2012 second-round pick (Chris Quinn trade 01-05-10)
	Sixers receive Grizzlies 2012 second-round pick (Marreese Speights trade) ()
	Suns receive the Knicks' 2012 second-round pick (top 55 protected) (Amare Stoudemire trade 07-08-10)
	Trailblazers receive a Houston Rockets' 2012 second-round pick (Marcus Camby trade) ()
	Trailblazers receive the Nuggets' 2012 second-round pick ()
	Wizards receive Mavericks' 2012 second-round pick, (Chandler trade) (Tyson Chandler trade 12-10-11) eto sve

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